Staying Power!

There is a truth out there that seems to be valid for most gaming groups I talk to. It certainly is for us. And that is the fact that we rarely actually play a Role Playing Campaign to the end. THE END.

In fact for me personally I think I’ve actually “ended” maybe two campaigns in my life. (Not counting the one or two that ended with TPK’s and every one just gave up after that, because to be honest that is also usually a question of staying power.)

Think about it for a second. I’ve been playing Role Playing Games for 30-some years… and I’ve only ever actually gone all the way to the finish line TWICE! That has to be around <1% or so…

Why does this happen? Is it good or bad that it does? Do we want to / have the capacity for change? That is what this post is about.

We’re all “Nostalgic Utopians” when it comes to gaming.

A big factor here is that we all long for the, usually over rated, past. That gaming-high you got the first few times you were involved in a deep campaign. The bliss you felt when you were 16 and could play for 46 hours straight if you felt like it. And you DID feel like it. Frequently. This is part nostalgia and part trying to go back to something that was probably never really there the way you now remember it… I don’t know if that makes sense.

What I’m trying to say is that we now think of that time in our life as a Utopia of gaming. and we want to go back to that place when we play. But the fact of the matter is that time probably has erased all the negatives of that reality, and we are now different people caring about different things, so even the idea of reaching that same place is a Utopia in itself.

Example: One of our players has always talked about Greg Stafford’s – Pendragon RPG as the best RPG system of all times. There was no reason to the amount of praise he had for it. He loved it to bits and more or less declared all other RPG redundant because this was the best ever and even trying to make another RPG was a waste of time. Perfection was already there to be had.

So when we started up a Pendragon Campaign, he was on that like white on rice. We all were. We were excited. We were frothing at the mouth to get into this legendary game that was supposedly so awesome that… We might get back there, that feeling… that grail of gaming we all seek. It might just be here…

We played it on and off for almost a year. But it only took us one or two sessions to go: “What?” and “+30 Bonus? Well Greg was never big on maths I guess… ” etc. etc. And the person loving this game to bits soon started making different noises: “This game SUCKS!”

In a way I think that the major gaming experiences you have during your adolescence will shape the rest of your gaming life. Just like other experiences you have during that time will shape you. Music, ideology, people you look up to, clothes you wear.  etc. etc. Why should games be any different?

So this whole nostalgia will in the end cause disappointment and you will never reach the Utopia you are hoping for. I don’t know if there is a way around this problem. I mean it’s easy to say we should look to the future instead or focus on the now or any such nonsense. Nonsense because it’s easy to say but hard to do.

Signal to Noise ratio.

This is something I struggle with. Let’s say I have a gaming group of 6 people. I would not want to play RPG’s, continuing on the Campaign if not at least 4 of us were present… preferably this would also be the same 4 people that showed up last time.

This is harder than it looks. We have a steady gaming group. We’ve been gaming ever Thursday night, with exceptions of course, but quite frequently I would say, for the last… 10 or so years.

Yet it seems like mission impossible to keep the story cohesive. Either only 3 show up, in which case we play Board Games instead, or I get 4 people but only 2 of them were her last time, and the other two have missed the last 2 sessions… Bring out the Board Games!

See where I’m going with this?

If an adventure that I was estimating, should take about 3 weeks to complete is still not complete after 10 weeks, because people can’t get their shit together to be persistent. I (as a GM) will start to lose interest, and so will my players.

RPG are about STORY! And for there to be any story at all, the people playing have to participate, they have to care, get involved, and above all; Remember the story!

If the last time you played was 4 weeks ago and you have missed 2 sessions in between, then chances are you’d rather just play a board game, because right now, you don’t see the story at all.

This is also a hard nut to crack. We all have “real lives” to live as well. We all have work, wife, kids etc. and no one can blame us for having to tend to that every once in a while. Even on a Thursday. I have no clue how to fix this. Maybe force players to bring their calendars so we can schedule in a few nights in more “formal” sense? I don’t know.

Oooh! Shiny!

I’m guilty of this. Probably more so than anyone else in the group. This is my Achilles heel. I like to buy and read new games. I also get the irresistible urge to play them. And sometimes that affects my interest in the game we are currently playing. I lose focus.

This has a double-bad attached to it, and that is the fact that sometimes, when we get around to playing the “new” game, I’m almost bored of it already, because it was new and cool to me (had my attention) 6 months ago.

So here is another scenario to consider: I buy a game and / or read through a campaign… 4 months later we want to play it. So I read through the same campaign again… now we get bumps and hick-ups in the gaming frequency so after a couple of months I have to read through the same shit a THIRD time… at around that point I start to lose interest and buy another game to read on the side because the one we are playing is already old to me.

So how do we solve this problem? If we could make sure to “get it while it’s hot” and keep playing it with a better frequency, then I don’t think this would be such a big problem at all really. The trick is to catch the wave and surf it. One thing I have done (I am currently doing that in the game we play actually) is to NOT read new games I buy through and through. I buy the new setting supplement or campaign module, I browse it through, but I did not ready it! I held on, for a couple of months till it felt like we were getting closer to actually see some play, and NOW I start reading. It helps a little.

Ooooh! Shiny… Board Game!

Similarly, we sometimes get side-tracked one night because there is a new board game in the collection that we simply HAVE to try!

This is another “guilty as charged” for me. And it has steadily become worse over the last 5 years. It used to be Board Games was the back-up plan. The thing we did when we were not able to get an RPG group together. But these days we play Board Games because we, at that particular moment, want to play Board Games more than we want to play RPG’s.

I’ve come to have mixed feeling on this.

A) I love to play board games! And sometimes make the mistake of urging the group to play it with me at the expense of the RPG session we could have played.

B) I hate the fact that if we miss this ONE opportunity to continue the RPG campaign… who knows? Next week we might have fewer players and not be able to play anything BUT Board Games. And the week after that might be even worse… considering all the other myriad of small issues that dilute our RPG-sessions this is just another one that makes it hard to follow through.

So many games so little time!

In the end it’s probably simple maths. As we get older we have less time available to play. At the same time our budget for gaming goes up and we can actually afford to buy way MORE games than we could when we were 16.

So the ratio between consuming games/games available to play versus the actual time available becomes worse and worse.

These days I sometimes buy games I’m assuming from the start, will never get played. I just buy them for the read and to have them in my collection. It’s almost like the consumption of games has become it’s own part of the hobby. I guess that is when you realise you have become a “collector”. When you can name, off the top of your head, 20+ games you own, have owned for years, but that you have either played only once or not at all.

I just wished there was more time… like when I was 16… and we’re back to nostalgic utopia.


When we bring in all these factors that distract us from the RPG campaign that we have going. It should come as no surprise to any one that we play the same campaign for, give or take, 12 months. During that time we might have had anything from 7 – 15 actual RPG sessions, out of the maybe 40 game nights during the year. After this we stop and start another RPG campaign. It’s maybe only natural, but at the same time we all feel a little sad doing it.

We have tried shorter campaigns because we thought that maybe we could stay on target till the end if the end was not so far away… But we failed at that as well.

We have discussed playing more “one-shots” to “test” new systems to see if we liked them enough to start something bigger. But some people in the group don’t like jumping around that often from game to game and would rather just pick one.

We also have people in the group preferring Board Games over RPGs… strange I know…

I’ll be honest and say that EVEN if we did not have these problems, even if the group would show up like clockwork every Thursday and wanted to play the next session… I’m not sure I would not lose interest after a years time. I might be wrong of course, because the whole scenario I just described is a little alien to me, but it might be that I would still require a change.

The difference is that it would then be a change after 40 RPG sessions… and that is plenty of room to actually fit a full campaign.

This will continue and we bring it up every year to discuss how we can move forward, but we never seem to actually RESOLVE anything. We just go on and on in our old tracks.

Maybe you have any ideas?

To discuss

  • How many rpg campaigns have you participated in during your gaming career?
  • How many of those have you seen to the end?
  • Do you think this is a good or bad thing?
  • Do you think it is a symptom of something else?
  • How would you go about trying to “fix” it, if you thought it needed fixing?
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Do you believe in Santa…

Do you remember when you were a kid?  The advent, the time just before Christmas, how all your expectations and anticipations filled your body. All these feelings grew up to Christmas Eve and exploded in the evening when Santa came. Santa at that times; what was he really delivering?

To me Santa delivered the gifts, yes, but with the gifts came the magic. All the gifts where filled with something new, a new world, a new experience, a new discovery and a certain feeling. In all my grown up life I have struggled to get that specific feeling. The older I have grown the harder it is to catch the feeling of the childhood Christmas evening gifts.

It is not just hard to get the feeling, it also have a tendency to be much more expensive the older you get. You know the old saying; the difference with boys is the price of their toys.

How do all this fit with gaming??

I remember many years ago in the mid-80s, I was participating in a geology course and we visited an abandoned mine. When I was down in that mine, I was discussing with a friend for the first time ever about RPG. He had played D&D, and with a lot of colour told me stories of his adventures, when we were walking around in the darkness with very limited light. That I believe was my first real experience of a game that created a new world or a story.

Then school and life came in the way and many years passed, before I did get the chance to talk about and, or actually for the first time play RPGs. The first experience gave me the taste for it, and from there is no going back.

The magic starts in creating your character that in some games as Traveller is a game in itself. Creating the story about your avatar, where does she come from, why is she here. What are the drivers and what can she do to help driving the story forward.

Then in putting this character alive and being its mentor in the decisions it takes to gain her own objectives as well as helping the group to reach its overall objectives. The discussions that evolve from this can span from deep philosophical discussions to hilarious stand up comedy.

In a good group, I believe magic is created when playing RPG. Don’t you agree that the good old Santa feeling play tricks with you or is it just a bit Cthulu spooky.

For me the magic just don’t come from RPGs

Another way to get the same type of anticipation as in the childhood is to now look around at Board game geek or other sources of information, find a game you haven’t heard of, but that looks interesting. Read about the game, consider cost versus risk, and finally take the decision and order the game.

After the order or even worse, signing up for a kickstarter, comes the wait….

Then suddenly one day the post office announces there is a delivery, these butterflies in the stomach, or what would you call it?

The day when a package arrives is always a bit of Christmas Eve; I always get the sensation of excitement. Will the content answer to my anticipations…

Getting new games always makes me happy, after a while it gets to an addiction; you really “need” to get the feeling.

Final Questions

1)      Does Santa exist?

2)      Is the Santa feeling reel?

3)      Or do we organise Anonymous Gameoholics?

Spreading the disease – zombies, brains and gaming

I was at a conference with the company I work for the other day. In the midst of discussions about the new project planning system that is on its way and about lichen, fish and snakes and stuff we normally talk about at my work, we suddenly had to rise and walk over to another room where we got a rather lighthearted and very professional talk about what is good for the brain and how to stimulate it.

The only problem I had was that all I could think about was “BRAIIIIIIIINS” and zombies. Yes, I was rather tired and in real need of getting at least one game played with my very nice, but rather un-gamey colleagues.

Later that evening I managed to convince a few of the others to play a round of Zombie dice with me and my restless soul found it´s peace and I could go to bed without the game-itch still in my nerves. Zombie dice is maybe not a very deep game, but as most really light games it is good for some nice trash-talking, as a filler or as in this case, to go with a nice glass of red wine. If you haven´t encountered it, it is a push-your-luck dice-rolling game, where you draw dice out of a cup, roll them, save all brains (good to eat) and shotguns (bad for you). You then draw and roll more dice until you either decide to stop and count your collected brains for points or get three or more shotguns and get no points this round. We got a couple of games, had some good laughs about luck and bad luck, naïve overconfidence and boring safe-playing and then went off to bed.

Later that night I kept thinking about Zombies. How they seem to have such a wide appeal to many, many gamers. But not to me. I cannot get enthusiastic about the whole zombie business. To me, it is all rather one-dimensional, repetitive and depressing. It just doesn´t trigger my imagination. I thought about if there was anything that could make me more interested or sympathetic to the theme. Finally I realized that there is one thing: Socially, zombies and I work according to the same script!

  1. Identify humans
  2. Get brains
  3. Spread infection

Unfortunately, that´s where the similarities end (except on frequent occasions, when I have had too little sleep). Zombies want brains to eat, I want them to manipulate into gamer-brains. Zombies spread zombie-infection, I spread gamer-infection. But still, being a gamer-missionary is a bit like being a zombie! There is a chance of mutual understanding! Maybe I should pre-order Dead of Winter?


  1. Are there any themes that you, dear reader, have difficulties in getting into?
  2. Why zombies?

7 Wonders and birdwatching

My geeky life started with birdwatching. From my earliest years I have memories of for example sitting on my fathers back trying really hard to drop my wellingtons, just because it was so exceptionally funny, while my father tried to work out the status of a nest of an osprey or other. I have realised that I still categorise many things according to birdwatching nomenclature. That is also true for games. For example, when I finally got hold of Tales of the Arabian Nights, I rejoiced with the knowledge that I had secured yet another cosmic mindf**ker – something really cool and rare. Yes, there are lots of nice words around. The most important thing in this is ticks. When you see a new species, you get to make a tick in your tick-list. I, of course, have a tick-list for games in my head.

Another term is shame-ticks. To be honest, this is my translation of the Swedish term skamkryss. The English equivalent is actually rude and misogynistic, so I won´t use it. It stands for a species, that one should have seen a long time ago, considering how many other species one has seen. One of my most serious shame-ticks in gaming has until recently been 7 Wonders.

As probably everyone knows, 7 Wonders is a card game where you try to build the most developed civilization, through advances in science, warfare, trade, production or monuments. You do this by collecting cards in a drafting mechanic, where you get a hand of cards, keep one and then pass the hand on to the next player. The really hard choices you have to make are when a hand contains both cards you want to collect for yourself and cards that you really have to deny your competitors around the table. This puts you in impossible situations and you have to choose, and you can´t and you panic and oh, its so nice.

An interesting thing is that this game is so wide-spread. You can buy it not only in specialist game stores but in almost every book shop. It is even translated into weird languages such as Swedish or Finnish. Games this easily found are either really bad (like monopoly) or really easily accessible. 7 Wonders definitely falls into the latter category. It is easy to start playing. The thing is, though, that it is also very punishing. If you are a beginner and play against experienced people, you will be crushed. Trust me, I know.

A week or so ago, I finally had a chance to play a game of 7 Wonders. With me at the table were my older two kids, an old friend who is a fellow gamer, and his girlfriend who is not, although obviously with a sharp mind suited for gaming. My son went for a strategy of total war, my daughter chose science and some buildings, my friend took as many of the monuments and buildings as possible and his girlfriend somehow managed to get hold of an awful lot of guild cards – cards that let you count other cards of different types in your own and, sometimes, your neighbouring players´ tableaus and give you an awful lot of points for them. I ended up trying a little of this and a little of that, which proved to be a really lousy strategy. Or maybe lack thereof. Me and my warrior-son ended up last, my daughter a number of points above us, my friend with quite few more and his girlfriend with a victory of about a mile.

I was intrigued of the game mechanic, of the fact that the theme actually came through and of the depth. It is, as I said before, easy to learn enough to start playing, but after that you have quite some way to go to get good. This obviously makes for a really good game, but I am a little amazed that it seems to have such a wide an appeal, even to non-gamers.

Anyway, a good beating like that and the feeling that this game has a lot of replayability made me sure that this belonged in my collection. I ordered it online, and here it is now. I am going to study the rules and hopefully get it played within next week. A good point is that also my kids got really enthusiastic about it, so a safe bet is that we are going to spend at least some part of next week-end with this lovely box. I´ll also make sure to get them to be able to list the seven wonders of the classical world…


1. Should a good entry-game be as skill-based as 7 Wonders?
2. Can anybody teach me how to get good at this? Help!

Who’s the player with the longest… nose?

There has always been rules for assigning Starting Player.

When I was little the rules said you randomly decided by rolling dice, or in rare occasions it said the person who owned the game took the first round. Which made some sort of sense when you were 10 years old, since, hey… it’s my game! I go first!

These methods still exist, but the last five-or-so years there’s been a virtual explosion of alternative methods. These days you decide who will go first by referencing some fact or other about the players around the table

The question is A) are they really all that different and original? B) what impact does it have on our games? and C) what the hell is going on?

I’d argue that they are all more or less the same. You find out some fact about the players to get at who is going first. This could be anything from comparing physical attributes to personal details about origin, habits, health, work, living place e.t.c.

The arguments against these methods could be that not everyone wants to be scrutinized to see if they have more almond-shaped eyes than everyone else. The game might cross a line and become too personal if the starting player is the one who last visited a doctor.

Some of the geographical criteria easily falls flat: Who was the last player to visit an island if the game is actually played on Manhattan… or in our case Hisingen? Or who last was underground, when we’re always playing in my basement…

Another reason not to like these methods might be that there is an in game advantage to go first or last in a game. And if the same group plays the game multiple times normally the same person will go first. The meta-game will then be to remember this, and have a seat at the table accordingly, if you happen to know that it’s better to go last for instance. This way lies madness.

Why then? Why do this instead of rolling dice?

I believe that the sole purpose of this, silly humour and all, is that the rule ask the players to chit-chat / interact to come up with a “winner”, instead of blindly throwing dice. This is warm up. The banter can start straight away and if you belong to a group that know each-other well, you’ll probably start the name calling right around the time someone goes; “I visited another town this morning!” And if you are playing with strangers you might actually get to know them better if the player born in the smallest town should start the game.

In short it prompts table talk and social interaction.

So do we like it? Do we hate it? Is it silly? Do we ignore these rules and roll a die anyway? Or do we just run a “roshambo“? Let us know in the comments.


What game uses the following trait/fact to determine first player? (these are all real examples with at least one game using this rule)

  1. The person who has been the deepest below the surface of the ocean.
  2. The person with the pointiest ears.
  3. The last person who was ill.
  4. The last person who visited an Island.
  5. The person born in the smallest town.
  6. The last person who visited a different town.
  7. The last person who was underground.
  8. The person with the most almond shaped eyes.
  9. The most aggressive person.
  10. The person with the most facial hair.

What´s all this, then?

OK, there is hardly any lack of male, white people around forty who suffer from the delusion that anything they want to say is of general interest. So we really should keep quiet and game on in our basements. BUT, since we are gaming just for fun, with no expectations that anybody would care, we might as well write just for fun, with exactly the same expectations. So, therefore we are now starting The Boardogamist – A Hisingen Gaming Journal.

The Boardogamist is a blog, obviously. It is also a collective project with a lot of assorted ideas on what to write about. Main topics will be, for a start:

  • The games we play – session reports
  • The games we buy and what hopes we have for them – acquisitions
  • The games we want to get or play – radar
  • Which games are better than others – lists
  • Thoughts about gaming, for example playing games with kids – ponderings

As can be seen, there is a slight tilt against games and gaming, and yes, this is meant to be a blog about the games we like and play. These are mainly analogous, although if somebody wants to say anything about a videogame there will at least be a warning before punishment.

The ”we” in all this is a little, losely composed gaming group, centered around weekly meetings in Ulf´s basement. Every thursday we get together and play roleplaying games (RPG:s) or boardgames. We have done this for many years and the main focus has been on RPG:s, but the last two years the balance has shifted slightly to reach an equilibrium around 50/50.

Most of us have been gaming actively for the better part of our lives, some have been in this mess a little shorter. Most of us have a bunch of kids, but some have not. The kids are exploring quite a few games as well, both on their own and together with us.The ones that are around ten or twelve are on the brink of starting an RPG group of their own. We hope. Or believe. We haven´t exactly forced them. Only… ah, never mind.

Hisingen, the fourth largest island in Sweden, is the place where quite a few of us live, and where Ulf´s basement is. It is also known as ”the wrong side of the river” in Gothenburg, or possibly ”the island of harbours and industry, where people get shot and where nobody wants to live”. But we like it.

We will do this in English, because it is fun and because we tend to hang around on English speaking forums on BoardGameGeek, Shut Up and Sit Down and such. If you have arrived from any of these places of great splendour we also want you to feel welcome. We hope that what we write is reasonably intelligible and not too horrendously misspelllt even though it is probably painfully obvious that we are trying to say something in a foreign language.

Well, enough of this. Let´s play some games!


  1. Hello, stranger. Who are you and where do you come from?
  2. Are there any other subjects that we should cover?